Be The Change
Allie Bender, co-owner of Pet Harmony Training and co-author of Canine Enrichment for the Real World, has spent twenty years untangling complex animal behavior cases — and along the way, discovered that the human on the other end of the leash matters just as much as the dog. In this conversation, Allie traces her path from an animal-obsessed thirteen-year-old to a business owner mentoring other professionals, and shares what shifted when she stopped assuming there's one right answer. She and Colleen dig into critical thinking, mentorship, and why community, not more credentials, might be what the industry actually needs.
Links worth clicking
- Pet Harmony Training website, Facebook, and Instagram
- Canine Enrichment for the Real World, by Allie Bender, CDBC, and Emily Strong, CDBC

Colleen Pelar 00:05
Welcome to Unleashed at Work and Home. I'm Colleen Pelar, and this is where pet professionals come for honest conversations about what it really takes to show up for yourself while serving the animals you love. If you've ever felt caught between compassion and exhaustion, you're in the right place. Here we explore what it means to reconnect with your inner wisdom and rediscover the joy that brought you to this work. Make sure to join my email community at colleen pelar.com for gentle, practical insights designed specifically for pet professionals. Now, let's dive in. Welcome back to Unleashed at Work at Home. My guest today is Allie Bender, who's one of the co-owners of Pet Harmony Training. Welcome, Allie. So glad to have you.
Allie Bender 00:53
Thanks for having me, Colleen. I'm excited to be here.
Colleen Pelar 00:56
So I said Pet Harmony Training, like everyone knows what that
Allie Bender 01:00
is. Tell us a little bit about what is Pet Harmony training because it's not just regular. You know, you're a dog trainer and you do training. It's a little beyond that. Absolutely. So, Pet Harmony we specialize in animals, primarily dogs and cats, who have behavior issues, and we specialize in complex extreme. extreme behavior issues like aggression, anxiety, fear, compulsions, all of that-what I think is fun stuff-and so we have the pet parent side of our business where we're helping pet parents who have pets with with these difficult behavior issues, and then we also have the professional side of our business, where we're mentoring other professionals on [trading — unclear; likely "training"] behavior and enrichment.
And did that predate your book, or did it come as a result of your book-the book that I'm referring to? That again, now you have to tell us what book I'm talking about. Canine enrichment for the real world is is our book, and it's a harder question to answer than one might think. So the the timeline's a little a little funky. The book came out in 2019, but we were writing it for four years prior, so it it took us four and by us I mean Emily Strong, my co author and I co author and now one of my co owners at Pet Harmony, and so it took us four years to write that book.
So the starting of the book was when we were working at an animal sanctuary together, so that predated Pet Harmony. We were coaching other professionals still at that time, like that was part of our job at working at at the sanctuary, and so yeah, it all kind of comes together at the same time. Got it. So. the complex parts of the behavior, yeah, that is what's really tricky about it all. That everything layers upon everything, and what you're really working to do is to help untangle some of these knots. Yes, what do you think has drawn you to that?
I love problem solving, and I love being presented with a sticky situation and figuring out how to solve that situation. I I think that's part of why I like being a business owner and all of that is is all of the problem solving parts. The actual doing of things, I don't love that part as much, but I love the problem solving part of it. And so, I think that's one of the things that really draws me to working with behavior issues because it is a puzzle, and and you can't just look at the behavior in a vacuum, in isolation. You have to look at everything that is going on in this animal's life, from their health to their environment to the the family dynamics that are happening. Everything, and I love that.
I think too, when I was growing up, we had a dog, Sid, and he was a behavior case. At the time, we did not know that. You know, that was it was it was different in the '90s when we're talking about dog behavior. But I mean, he was my best friend, my brother. I'm an only child, so you know, he he really you know was was my buddy, and he had two or three bites, two bites, I think, before my parents, you know, really started like working. On it, they went to a trainer to to learn about his behavior. But I think he's really who sparked a lot of this interest in me of knowing like how wonderful this dog was, and and you know he was my family member, and also my parents were having to navigate very serious behavior issues with him,
Colleen Pelar 05:24
yeah, which is so hard. It's so hard on everyone because you know the dog doesn't understand the complexities of the human world, and there we are going. Well, how come you're not managing this well? Because you're such a nice dog. We love you. We love you. Why are you acting this way? Yeah. No, and it's a tricky, tricky thing. So, have you always been drawn to this kind of work? Well, here's a question I like to ask everybody. Yeah. When you were 10, what did you think you were going to do with your life? 10. Okay.
Allie Bender 06:00
So I remember wanting to be a vet, wanting to be an author, and wanting to be an actor of all things. Yep, I. Who knows? They all go together. Me too, and I do a little bit of all of those things now. So I think I was pretty steadfast on on who I was going to end up being when I was little. 13 is is really when I started getting into animal welfare and and wanting to really make that my career. But I've I've kind of always been this. So so lead. me through so at 13 you started getting into animal welfare and so then presumably you graduate from high school and what happens next? Yeah, so at 13 we adopted another dog bear, and and that was who got me into the like learning about animal homelessness in the United States, and and so at that time I decided I was going to open an animal shelter, and and
Colleen Pelar 07:11
every 13 year old decides no problem.
Allie Bender 07:13
Every 13 year old decides totally normal thing to do, and and that was my goal for 10 years. So yeah, that was my goal for 10 years. So I started volunteering at 16. So this this year marks 20 years officially in animal welfare for me. So I started volunteering at 16. I I graduated high school. I went to college for animal science with a minor in entrepreneurial studies. I did internships at shelters. I I was in the the honors program. My honors thesis was about environmental enrichment in shelters and how that affects adoption rate. Like everything I did was was for this. So, yeah, I I was a totally normal teenager, is what I'm saying.
Colleen Pelar 08:11
Totally normal, just like all the rest.
Allie Bender 08:13
Yes,
Colleen Pelar 08:14
I think that's so cool. Animal science and entrepreneurial study, like that, is a lovely combination for that desire and for where you are right now and all of that. So then, so you don't own a shelter.
Allie Bender 08:30
I don't own a shelter. You don't, but but you work in one. So take me through the trajectory. Then, so you graduate with this degree. This is still your plan. You're working toward it. Yep. Yeah. So I, after graduating, I ended up. I think I had like four part time jobs. It was it was hard to find full time in animal welfare. It still it still is. But it was at the time that I graduated. It was it was even harder, and so I was working part time at a shelter. I was working part time at a local low cost spay neuter clinic, and and the spay neuter clinic ended up offering me full time maybe a year later as their program manager, and I was like, "This is perfect. It's everything I'm going to have to do when I open my shelter. Like, this is going to teach me all all the rest of this. And I absolutely hated that job. So I had this like quarter life crisis of everything that I've done for almost half of my life has been to open a shelter, and I don't think I want to open a shelter anymore. What do I do?
Yeah, and one of those part-time jobs was dog training, and it was the only job that that I. Time job that I kept when I went full time at the at the clinic, and at some point I was like, you know, I think they just want to train dogs. Like I I had always loved behavior, even when when I was in school. You know, I I took a lot of courses on enrichment. I took a lot of courses on behavior, and one of my goals for having a shelter was being able to work with behaviorally challenged dogs and cats. So that that was always a piece of it, and I was like, I think I just want to train dogs, and that's that's when I went and worked full time as a dog trainer at the sanctuary.
Colleen Pelar 10:41
So you say you took a lot of courses on enrichment and behavior in college, which I'm kind of impressed that there were a lot of courses to take. I mean, yeah, that's fabulous that they were available for you to be taking because I'm actually a little bit surprised that you could have had more than one, like to have had one. It'd be like, yay! There was someone who was focused on this, but to have to have had a few is is pretty great.
Allie Bender 11:10
Yeah, I did piecemeal some of it together. Like I took human psychology courses, and then the person who ended up being my advisor for my honors thesis, she she was the one who taught the enrichment courses, and and she her thing was enrichment for swine, and she did a lot of study. You know, I went to Iowa State; it's an agricultural school, so like I know a lot about pigs and cows and things, but yeah. So she did enrichment for pigs, and so she had an undergrad course. She let me do her her graduate course on enrichment, and yeah, that's fabulous. I mean, I I wasn't aware that that was
Colleen Pelar 12:00
being taught at that level, which is amazing, because enrichment for swine is important. Yes, and also something that I was not aware was being and being offered back when you were in school, which is you know not last semester. Correct. It was less common then. Yeah. Okay. So there you are now. You're at the sanctuary, and
Allie Bender 12:30
what did that teach you? What was that experience like for you? It taught me a lot of things. Not all good things, I will say, it was. I will say one of the things that I'm grateful for from being there is I learned really, really quickly how to work with pets with behavior issues. You know, it's I I had been shadowing the the behavior consultant at the training facility that I I was working part time at in hopes to you know eventually take over for her and all that, but anybody who's gone that route of shadowing somebody to to learn knows that it's a lengthy process to really learn all the things, and I got a crash course at the sanctuary. I mean, I was working with kiddos who I hope to never meet dogs again that have those particular issues that have that have those histories. Like you learn very quickly how to not get bitten. Like I learned more in the almost three years there about how to work with serious maladaptive behaviors than I would have in 10 years outside of that experience.
Colleen Pelar 14:00
Yeah, for sure. And so, and that's where you met Emily. I mean, Ellen, Emily, Emily. Yeah. Okay. It's hard. They both have E names. Yeah. Yeah. And I started it right, and then corrected it to be wrong. So. so, so you and Emily met up there, and then what happened?
Allie Bender 14:30
Yeah, so we met there. She left a couple of months before before I did. She moved to Salt Lake City, started her business. I I then moved to back to Illinois, started my business, and but yeah, we we started while we were at the sanctuary. We started writing canine enrichment for the real world. We also started working on. Like a like a shelter education program that is now no longer really existent anymore. We we took a pause with COVID and decided to not unpause afterwards, and we started kind of dabbling in mentoring while while we were there as well. So a lot of projects started
Colleen Pelar 15:30
while we were there, and then we took them into our individual businesses. So talk to me about the value of mentoring for all of those trainers who are out there, not getting the crash course and all this behavior that you had at the sanctuary, but seeing behavior like it's out there, it's out there. I walked into someone's living room and been like, "Oh, more than what was described in advance, right? That wasn't on the form. Yes, did not did not anticipate this. Now let's do something. So, so mentoring. How did that come to pass? How did you step into that role?
Allie Bender 16:30
Yeah, the how I think is really because of Emily. That that's how many of the things in my career have come to pass is because of Emily. I didn't want to write the book, and she made me. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Like she she leaves an agency except for me. That's fair. Yeah. I'm just gonna do things for her. Yeah, so she was the one who really had an experience with a mentor. I didn't per se, like I, you know, I had the behavior consultant that I shadowed with. I wouldn't necessarily call her a mentor, though. You know, I I was learning from her, but it wasn't necessarily like that particular mentor mentee relationship that I now know about. But Emily did have those relationships in in her career, and so she was the one who really got me on board with this and and got me to understand how valuable it is, and and now that I do have those relationships, I yeah, fully a convert, 100% believe, 1,000% believe in that, and for a few different reasons, one is, you know, on on like the the training and behavior side of things, one of the things that the sanctuary afforded me was a really large internal database of you know when you see this behavior, you've seen it 100 times, here are all the variations you've seen, and so it's really easy to pick up trends outside of that experience because I have this enormous internal database of 1000s of dogs, and that's something that that people not working in like a large scale facility don't get they.
It takes a long, long time to build up that that database, and so one of the things that is really cool about watching people in our mentorship program is that they are able to start building that database by watching other people's cases, by hearing other people talk about their cases, and so it's like, okay, you don't necessarily have to work in a large scale facility. You can start learning by just like being being surrounded by a bunch of different cases that you're you're not even working. On the personal side of things, a mentor is going to see your your gaps better than you do and push you when you need to be pushed. And so, I I actually just just signed up for a new program, like a like a marketing mentorship program, and while we were doing the discovery call, they asked me, like, okay, like, how do you want, you know, your coach to be working with you? And I was like, I want somebody to kick my butt. Like, don't hold my hand. Don't tell me that I'm doing well. I have people in my life that are very supportive. That's not what I need from you. I need you to tell me that I'm wrong, and like drag me kicking and screaming to do the thing that I know I need to do that I don't want to do. So that's how I prefer to work with a mentor. Of course, not everybody is like that, but that having somebody. Be able to see the gaps in my knowledge. Being able to see the self-limiting beliefs that I have. Being able to see how I am getting in my own way when it comes to achieving my goals and calling me on it, whether that is you know very kindly. Kindly, supportively, or the way I prefer, which is just tell me, and I will tantrum, and then I'll come back in three days, and I will do what you say. It's that's just it's nice to know you're you're yeah yeah, and so I tell them like I'm gonna tantrum, I'll come back, and I will do exactly what you say. So just like, just ignore the feelings that I'm having. I'm fine. I have I have the skills to navigate that. So, yeah, like that has made me have so much faster progress than
Colleen Pelar 21:00
anything else. You know, trying to do it by myself. Yeah, yeah. There's such a value to working with somebody who wants what's best for you and wants you to be able to achieve it. So it's sort of looking at like how to support you and move you in the direction you're going, as opposed to has their own agenda for you, like it's a really careful line. Yeah, it is, and that's one of the challenges of kind of working with colleagues or friends about some of these things is that they they are a little bit invested in how you choose to move forward. Yes, and they can pressure with good intentions, but sometimes not fully seeing that, like your own personal development, your own experience is the key.
I think that it's so valuable because the work you do and the work I do are similar and different. Because I'm not working specifically on how to help people with their behavior plans or any of that part of that, but I am working on like some of the self-limiting beliefs and some of the things of like I know I should, but I'm not. There's something I want to do, intend to do, and am not doing that kind of stuff. And there's just such value in having someone to talk to about those things, and also having it in group situations where you can suddenly realize it's not just me. I'm not alone. I'm not the only one. All of these people who I thought had all the answers, don't actually have all the answers either. They're figuring things out, and they're actually really amazing and competent without knowing everything. Oh, so it's okay. That's okay, which is just mind blowing for people at times because we have been raised in a structure that says like there is a correct answer, there is one correct answer, and we will give you a test that will tell you exactly what percentage points you did toward getting exactly right. And life is so much messier than that. Yes, yeah, and especially when we're talking about training and behavior, it's so much than that. And you know, our our industry really tries to push that that narrative of there's one correct answer and this is the way to do it and it's like there are 20 correct answers. What are you talking about? Yes, which brings us around to that whole it depends answer that is so frustrating to people and also the only real answer in in a given situation, because we do need to have somebody who's going to look at the nuance and all of that.
One of the things I really appreciate about pet harmony is the attention you pay toward how much effort it will be for the family to provide the the care. Like, here's the recommendation, and like we can see on paper, this works. And what we sometimes don't see is the human wilting as they imagine trying to implement the plan, and that's a tricky piece because these behaviors are important and complex, and often life-threatening, or certainly stability-threatening for people. But we have to find a way to to meet the human needs. So, I mean, obviously, I I'm jumping ahead in my head of like this is sort of a [dull? — unclear] question, but but it it is a piece that I have seen missing in so many people's work. So tell me how it became so important to you guys to prioritize that to make it really front and center. Is this doable? Yeah, that's
Allie Bender 24:56
a wonderful question. I don't think that's a dull question at all. I think that's a great question. I don't know that there was like a like a singular aha moment for me where I was like the human learner is just as important as the non human learner. I think there are a couple things that stand out for me. One, which I I won't go super far into the story, so that you don't have to like add a bunch of like content warning stuff. But there was a really traumatic experience that that I witnessed at the shelter or the sanctuary. Sorry, and. and um, and it happened to one of my very close friends, and it was very interesting, you know, being with her after you know taking her to the emergency room and all of that, and then you know being in in her house, and and helping her out, and all of that, and people coming by and explaining why this dog just did what he did to her, and and explaining away, if if I'm being totally honest, and I remember having this moment of, wow, you do not care about this human being nearly as much as you do this dog, and I have really, really big feelings about that. And I think that was that was a really defining moment for me. Of the human has to matter as much as the dog does, and and so that definitely shifted a lot of my mind. You know, when it came to like sheltering and and all of that,
and then I I also remember, you know, coming back to Illinois, starting Pet Harmony. I was also working contracting at some other businesses, doing behavior consulting for them as well, while I was growing my business. And you know, I I still had the like the human is important, but I didn't necessarily know how to implement that in a behavior plan, and so, you know, I I would see these clients, and I was like, I can do better. Like, I can get better. At the time, I would have called it compliance. That word's kind of gross. So now I'm calling it cooperation. Like, I can get better cooperation. I can I can get better results. I can get better follow through. Like, what is the thing that I'm missing here? And and really, it was just a lot of trial and eval to be like, oh, the thing that I'm missing is implementing the human learner is just as important as the canine learner in this situation, and and figuring out how to implement that, even though I had, I already had that belief. I just didn't know how to do it.
Yeah. So I ask all of my guests to share words that have meaning for them, and you've already demonstrated your words so many times in our conversation. But the words that you shared are "be the change. So tell me what those words mean to you, and like when they came into your awareness, and and why they're ones that you hold on to. Yeah, that that was one of the easiest words to choose. There are several, but I was in [coals — unclear; possibly "Kohl's," the department store] of all things, and found this ring that I wear all the time, and it says, "Be the change you wish to see in the world. And I found it when I was starting at at the shelter right after graduating, and so that like it just really stuck with me. Of like, okay, if I want to see change in this shelter, which I did, I'm going to have to be the one who who does that change. So you know, I started an enrichment program. I started you know working on on training the the kiddos who are having problems, all of that sort of stuff. And so that that's really, I had heard it before, but it was really what stuck with me was just like had like wearing those words at this time, where like I was really focused on on making change, and then the day that I took my CPDT test. That's the word. I went with another trainer. This was at the sanctuary. I went with another trainer, and we decided we were going to go get our first tattoos after the test to like celebrate. And so I have. The change tattooed on me,
Colleen Pelar 30:03
awesome.
Allie Bender 30:03
Yes, so it's I truly carry it with me everywhere. You do, but yeah, it's it's you know, and and I still think about it regularly. I mean, it helps to have you know visual reminders at all times, but I still carry it with me. Of of you know, there are a lot of things that I do want to see change in this world, and that that has to start with me.
Colleen Pelar 30:30
Yeah, it's really beautiful. Thank you. I love that like a ring that you found in [coals — see note above] is still on your body, and you know, like becomes a tattoo. Yes. Yeah, it's you can't really read the ring anymore. You know, that's what the tattoo is for. And and you know, as as your ring is changing, it's evidence that you are being the change. Like, yeah, the ring cannot stay the same. Yeah, because you are living your life and using those hands and doing things with them. Exactly, I love that. That's beautiful. I love that. So, what's something that you've learned about yourself or the world with regard to your work in animals as a result of your work in animals?
Allie Bender 31:16
I've learned so many things. It's hard to. It's it's honestly hard to choose just one. I don't limit you. I appreciate whatever you like. Talk all day. I appreciate that. I think honestly, I I think one of the things that I've learned most in the you know 20 years of animal welfare, 10 years of having pet harmony, is the importance of community and what that word really means, and. like, just everything comes back to that. It's it's just so so important, you know. I I see in the pet parents that we work with once we give them, you know, that that emotional support that they need, and and like how much they're willing to take on for their dog when they just have some support from another human being, and and like being able to be that person for them. And then, you know, in our mentorship program, it's so interesting because you know, like they get mentors, they get curric, like course curriculum, they get all these things, and it's the community that makes the biggest difference in in their lives and their career, like hands down. And it's so hard to explain that to people who haven't experienced like a truly safe, supportive community. That that as you said cares for you without an agenda attached to it, and that's that's something I think that's so lacking in our world. And you know, the more I experience and and all of that, just the more that that is the answer.
Colleen Pelar 33:21
Yeah, it really is. It really is, and it's interesting too how we feel comfortable reaching for more education, for more tools, for more. But it can be difficult to reach for community. It doesn't feel as safe. Yeah, or even as like inherently valuable, like we can we can see investing in, you know, a conference or a course that's going to teach me something tangible. But at the end of this, I will know how to whatever. But the reality is, finding people with whom we can be full people, and say, "I'm actually pretty excited that I'm getting better at this, and I'm a little bit stressed that I'm not making progress on this. And just be ourselves; like none of us has it all figured out, and have people accept and appreciate what we've got-that's so so valuable. But we haven't we haven't created space for people to really learn how to lean into that yet. So that's one of the changes that that is making your community and and mine. You know, like like we're trying to find places for people to be fully human, doing the work that they care about so much, without having to be perfect at it.
Allie Bender 34:44
Yes, yeah, and yeah, being and I and I think too, like people do want that, and it's also so scary because there are so many unsafe spaces. Indeed, learning. Indeed, yeah. Like it's, you know, I I tell people when they're inquiring about our program, you know, and they're asking about the community. I was like, we created a space that we wanted to hang out in. We hadn't found one yet, and so we're like, we're just gonna do it ourselves. And yeah, I think that's I think that's hard, but I I do see like the ripple effect in that of of like the work that that we're doing, the work that you're doing of like when people understand like oh this is what community is, they're able to then you know like start making those strides in their own world and and with the people that they know too, yeah, yeah. It's amazing how the ripple effects of just supporting anyone in stepping into their full humanity has powerful ripple effects because people people are doing the best they can, and when we can help them do better, they do better. A period in their story.
Colleen Pelar 36:00
Yes. Yes. Yeah. So, if I had a magic wand that you can use to give a blessing or a wish for pet professionals everywhere, what would you give us? Oh,
Allie Bender 36:19
that's hard. I'm going to say a thing that sounds kind of like a jerk thing to say: critical thinking skills. Okay, we'll take it. And how is this going to help us? So many ways. So many ways. One is imposter syndrome. So, you know, I talk to a lot of professionals. I work with a lot of professionals, and they are telling me that they have imposter syndrome and all of that. And when we when we dive into it, there can be many, many reasons behind that, and some of them are not things that I am equipped to handle. And I'm like, there are mental health professionals that can help you with that piece of it. But what I find a lot of times is because again our industry pushes this narrative. There's one right answer, you know, and once you like unlock the secret of this right answer, then you are going to feel confident, and that's just like not true. And and what I see in Pet Pro, our mentorship program, is as people are learning those critical thinking skills, they're able to see past that where they're like, "Oh no, that's a ridiculous premise, actually, and all these people touting like this is the one way to solve leash reactivity, this is the one way to solve separation anxiety? That's not true. There are a lot of ways to solve all of those things, and you need lots of ways if you're going to be able to work with different humans and different environments.
And so, like I, I've seen those critical thinking skills really help break down some of the things that that we see in the industry that are causing people to have imposter syndrome, and I think the other thing too would be there would be so fewer internet arguments if critical thinking skills were a thing that not just our industry, that like all humans in the world had, where like I've seen some arguments where it's like y'all even aren't talking about the same topic, like like okay, or arguments where it's like y'all are saying the same thing. You're just using different words. That was my in-laws. Like when I first met my in-laws, I would just sit in a room and watch them yell at each other, and I'd be like, "But I think they're in agreement. I think if we just say this, and but they were just terrifying to me. So I did not ever wade into the middle to go. So here is point A, and here is point B. And if you'll notice, they overlap by 98.7% and we're yelling.
Colleen Pelar 39:30
Could we try this differently? Yes, critical thinking skills would help with some of that too. Yeah, so that's my answer. That's a very good answer. So, given that I don't have a magic wand, which is sad, but I'm I'm still hoping for it to come in. I I believe in you. What what would be a great first step for us as we're trying to develop our critical thinking skills before the. Magic download occurs. Yes,
Allie Bender 40:07
I wish there are more resources for how to learn those. I'm sure Emily probably knows them because this is like her jam. But I think one of the things that really helped me was just learning about the different, like logical fallacies and cognitive biases, and having names for those, and being able to see when they're happening in myself and other people, and so I think this is a case where, like, more knowledge is actually going to be the first step of it. Of, you know, I wouldn't have known about any of those things. And even now, it's so funny. You know, I mentioned that I like mentors who push me, and and I know that I'm experiencing like a like a cognitive bias where you know my internal belief is being attacked, and that's why I'm having this reaction and all of that, and so, like knowing this is what is happening to me. This is a normal thing that, like, this is just how humans go about the world, and also that's what's happening. That's why you're you're against this this thing that they're saying. It's not because you're actually against this thing. It's because they just challenged your worldview, and that is perceived as an attack. That helps me just like go through faster, knowing like this is what's happening to me right now. Yeah, that's very helpful. Thank you. All of this has been really helpful.
Colleen Pelar 42:00
You're full of helpfulness.
Allie Bender 42:01
Thank you.
Colleen Pelar 42:02
Which goes which goes well for your career. So, if people wanted to learn more about you and your work, how could they do that? Absolutely. We do have our own podcast,
Allie Bender 42:12
Enrichment for the Real World. So that is a great place to to learn more, and we do talk about you know critical thinking skills and all of that in there. But otherwise, our website is petharmonytraining.com We have a blog. We have lots of things on there, and then Facebook and Instagram at pet harmony training. We do have at pet harmony pro for professionals on Instagram and TikTok, I will link up to all of that in the show notes. So thank you very much. It's been so fun talking to you today, Allie. I really enjoyed this. I me too. Thank you, Colleen. This is great. That's our conversation
Colleen Pelar 43:00
for today. If something we talked about resonated, I invite you to sit with it. Notice what feels true and what you want to explore further. You don't have to have it all figured out to start moving toward what matters. Whatever showed up for you today-clarity, questions, even resistance-trust that it's pointing you towards something important. For more support, join my weekly notes at colleen pelar.com. And until next time, remember, you are enough, always, just as you are.
